AI For Real — Ep. 3: Shipping Conversational AI with Angelo Giacco (ElevenLabs)In this episode, we go deep on voice, agents, and growth engineering with Angelo Giacco, Growth Engineer at ElevenLabs. We cover how his team ships conversational AI across platforms, why he lives in Claude Code every day, the realities of safety + deepfake prevention, ElevenLabs V3 and the new Music API, and why voice will be the control plane for autonomous agents.Brought to you by LisbonAI — the builder-first AI conference (Nov 3–4, Lisbon). No keynotes. No decks. Just brains and demos.What you’ll learn- What a Growth Engineer does at ElevenLabs (SDKs, product features, go-to-market)- How to max out AI in your workflow (docs, code, prototyping with Claude)- Why voice UX matters for long-running, asynchronous agents- Inside ElevenLabs V3 (emotion, immersion) & 11 Music (copyright-compliant training)- Safety: voice verification, misuse detection, moderation- Open-source vs hosted models: latency, reliability, and why infra still wins- The near future: instant dubbing, global reach, and human-level support by voice-----------------------------------------------------------------------------About AI FRAI For Real is a LisbonAI podcast, live series with makers who ship in public - models, agents, infrastructure, robotics, and the weird experiments that become products.If you're a builder, join us in Lisbon at https://lisbonai.xyz