A 16-year-old who’s interviewed Geoffrey Hinton, played chess with DeepMind’s CEO, and already shipped products used by real customers. In this kickoff episode of AI For Real (by LisbonAI), hosts Álvaro Samagaio and Humberto Ayres Pereira sit down with Elliot Norrevik (Lovable) to talk about learning by shipping, moving from solo founder to rocket-ship startup, the tools he actually uses, and why robotics is about to have its “ImageNet moment.”What you’ll learn- How a teen founder hustled his way into interviews with Hinton & Hassabis- The moment Scratch + Python turned “play” into “products”- From Roster AI to Lovable: what changes when you join a hypergrowth team- The stack Elliot actually uses (Claude, agents, MCP, Cursor)- Why he wants a “Google for MCP tools”- Side projects: camera-controlled mouse, CV toys, and quick demos that teach- Robotics: why control is “simple,” autonomy is hard, and why the big shift is near- Education: a case for AI-native, individualized learning-----------------------------------------------------------------------------About AI FRAI For Real is a LisbonAI podcast, live series with makers who ship in public - models, agents, infrastructure, robotics, and the weird experiments that become products.If you're a builder, join us in Lisbon at https://lisbonai.xyz
